{"id":396,"date":"2024-12-13T22:18:12","date_gmt":"2024-12-13T22:18:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/goodman-knot-point-c-propagation\/"},"modified":"2026-09-30T21:26:29","modified_gmt":"2026-09-30T21:26:29","slug":"goodman-knot-point-c-propagation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/goodman-knot-point-c-propagation\/","title":{"rendered":"The Goodman Knot: Where Is Point C in the Propagation?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sometime in the late 1960s or early 1970s <em>Playboy<\/em> magazine ran a story by Jean Shepherd, &#8220;Lost at C,&#8221; based on an experience he had as a child in the late 1940s or early 1950s. Shepherd wrote several childhood reminiscences for the magazine; they were all entertaining, but I enjoyed &#8220;Lost at C&#8221; the best.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The story is about a boy in school who is not good at math. He is called on to solve a difficult problem for &#8220;C&#8221; in algebra class. Clueless, he pulls a number out of thin air and it is the correct answer! Suddenly he is the class genius. Shepherd&#8217;s anthology <em>A Fistful of Fig Newtons<\/em> has this story and many of the others. If you are a Boomer, especially an early Boomer, you will find the stories a delightful trip down memory lane.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lost Beyond &#8216;C&#8217;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In Goodman there is the famous Goodman Knot, where the trader often becomes lost beyond the &#8220;C&#8221; point in the propagation. Goodman Wave Theory attempts to &#8220;resolve the Knot&#8221; with the three basic Goodman principles and Overlays. The problem is not totally solved thereby, and you can become the class genius if you can do it better!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I will endeavor to explain the Goodman Knot as Charlie explained it to me. I consider it part of Mr. Goodman&#8217;s genius that he could formulate it in such a clear-cut, simple fashion. It is a testament to the logical structure of Goodman Wave Theory that the market&#8217;s indeterminacy can be stripped down to a single, clearly defined problem. In science, defining the problem is often more than half the battle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Starting With the First Two Swings<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We start with the first two swings of a 1-2-3 matrix or a propagation. First, a simple 1-2-3 Matrix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1060\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-8.png\" alt=\"Diagram of a simple 1-2-3 matrix showing the first two swings and the point C ending the 2 swing\" class=\"wp-image-271\" srcset=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-8.png 1060w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-8-300x181.png 300w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-8-1024x618.png 1024w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-8-768x464.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1060px) 100vw, 1060px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A simple 1-2-3 Matrix.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And in a complex propagation, 1-2-3 -&gt; 1-2:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1060\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-9.png\" alt=\"Diagram of a complex propagation, 1-2-3 propagating into a new 1-2\" class=\"wp-image-272\" srcset=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-9.png 1060w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-9-300x181.png 300w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-9-1024x618.png 1024w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-9-768x464.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1060px) 100vw, 1060px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A complex propagation, 1-2-3 -> 1-2.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>50YearTrader Tip:<\/strong> Remember that in Goodman Wave Theory the trade is always for the propagated 3-swing: 1-2-3 -&gt; 1-2, and the trade is for the propagated 3 swing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The eternal Goodman trader&#8217;s question is this: Where is &#8220;C,&#8221; the Ending Point of the 2 swing? If we know where it is pricewise, we can buy or sell with much more confidence to trade for the 3-swing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Goodman Knot<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Past &#8220;C&#8221; the market begins to move again. This is in fact a Goodman Knot. Which direction is the current propagation?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1060\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-10.png\" alt=\"Diagram of the Goodman Knot showing price beyond point C with upward and downward propagation possibilities\" class=\"wp-image-273\" srcset=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-10.png 1060w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-10-300x181.png 300w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-10-1024x618.png 1024w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-10-768x464.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1060px) 100vw, 1060px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Goodman Knot. Prices exceeding B indicate an upward propagation; prices exceeding C indicate a downward propagation.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Prices exceeding &#8220;B&#8221; indicate an upward propagation. Prices exceeding &#8220;C&#8221; indicate a downward propagation. The indeterminacy of the market in a nutshell!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>50YearTrader Tip:<\/strong> If you do not see a propagation on a chart, it is almost certainly Knotted. Ask: What does it need pricewise to propagate in one direction or the other?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Again, GWT uses its principles (Propagation, Intersection, 3-C) and Overlays to &#8220;resolve the Knot&#8221; and the subsequent direction of prices.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Goodman 3-S Setup<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1714\" height=\"904\" src=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-11.png\" alt=\"MetaTrader 5 chart of a Goodman 3-S Setup, which is based on a double Knot\" class=\"wp-image-275\" srcset=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-11.png 1714w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-11-300x158.png 300w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-11-1024x540.png 1024w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-11-768x405.png 768w, https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/lost-at-c-11-1536x810.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1714px) 100vw, 1714px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Goodman 3-S Setup. Chart courtesy of MetaTrader 5.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Goodman 3-S Setup is based on a Double Knot. Perhaps that is a subject for a future post.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>This post is educational commentary. It is not investment advice. Trading futures and FX involves substantial risk of loss.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good Trading!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Michael Duane Archer<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Related Reading<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/chart-patterns-why-they-always-seem-to-work\/\">Chart Patterns: Why Head and Shoulders Always Seem to Work<\/a><\/li>\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/trading-the-goodman-line-10-4-1-rule\/\">Trading the Goodman Line: The 10-4-1 Rule Explained<\/a><\/li>\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/blog\/goodmanisms-charlie-goodman-sayings-trading\/\">Goodmanisms: Charlie Goodman&#8217;s Sayings on Trading, Explained<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Keep Learning the Goodman Way<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If this article was useful, these are the next steps:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/method\/\">The Method<\/a>: propagation, intersection and the 3-C Principle, drawn plate by plate.<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/library\/\">The Goodman Library<\/a>: the books, from Goodman for Grasshoppers to The Goodman 6 &amp; 6.<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/playbook\/\">The Trader&#8217;s Playbook<\/a>: the Molokai setup in one printed, numbered volume.<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/50yeartrader.com\/mentoring\/\">Mentoring<\/a>: work one-on-one with the authors.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Goodman Knot is the market&#8217;s indeterminacy in a nutshell: past point C, which way is the propagation heading? 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